first, the democrat-led senate has not passed a budget since prime minister's first ye president obama's first year in office and now the so-called no budget, no pay proposal. >> when i grew up, i had a lot of jobs and i had to work to get paid to do those jobs, so when i flipped burgers at mcdonald's or mowed lawns or painted houses i did the work and i got paid. i didn't get paid if i didn't do the work. it's the basic concept here, you do the work you get paid you don't do the work you shouldn't get paid. >> senator rob portman joins us. >> good to see you, greta. >> should be american people be outraged now that the house is suggesting a stop-gap measure and the president seemed obliged it that, should the american people are outraged we're sort of limping along. >> sure, 5 trillion dollars ago is the last time the senate had a budget. unbelievable, the debt has gone up by 5 trillion dollars and yet for almost four years now there hasn't been a budget and with a budget, as you know, comes regular poured meaning you have the appropriations process, so you actually have some oversight